Visar 1-15 av 19 kommentarer . The “official" narrative given to us in The Phantom Pain is that Venom is a sort of clone of Big Boss created when Militaires sans Frontieres was destroyed by cipher following the peace walker incident in 1974. I understand allot of people will say "Solid Snake" cause allot of people grew up with the original. As impressive as Solid Snake is, he would've only gotten so far if it wasn't for Big Boss personally instructing him. And this badass was able to withstand multiple rockets to the face before he went down. Big Boss was never thought to be what the games expose. @gent-zer0. Neolithic since: Nov 2005. Courtesy of the Patriots. He doesn't really have good enough motivations to turn into the villain of the series, and to me that's MGS3's main problem. The only time he wasn't being used for someone else's agenda was on the Big Shell, and even then he missed what was actually going on. In contrast, Big Boss, is arguably an even more tragic figure of circumstance. Old Snake vs. Big Boss or Solid Snake vs. Naked Snake. Both are great in stealth. Solid Snake (real name David) is the clone of Big Boss, and a world-renowned soldier and spy famed for his legendary exploits in the Outer Heaven Uprising and Zanzibar Land Disturbance.After repeatedly destroying several Metal Gear units, Snake has saved the world from the possibility of nuclear warfare on multiple occasions. Later in mgs 1 2 and 4 you have clones of the greatest soldier. Depends on who you ask. Big Boss did disarm Solid Snake at the end of MGS4. For Metal Gear Solid V: The Phantom Pain on the PlayStation 3, a GameFAQs message board topic titled "big boss vs solid snake" - Page 2. Who is most likely to come out on top in the following scenarios? Being comprised of the Snake Eater team, their role was to maintain peace and unify the entire world. Although Solid Snake had many mentor figures such as Master Miller, he learned what it meant to be a soldier and CQC from Big Boss. He’s the true hero of the series and the true successor to the boss. My Hero Academia: 10 Plot Twists Fan Never Saw Coming, Metal Gear Solid: 5 Reasons Why Big Boss Is The True Snake (& 5 Why It's Solid Snake), Metal Gear Solid: 10 Facts About Revolver Ocelot Even Long-Time Fans Don't Know, Metal Gear Solid: 10 Facts About Solidus Snake Even Long-Time Fans Don't Know, 10 Anime To Watch If You Liked Metal Gear Solid, Anime: 5 Couples In Shonen Everyone Wanted To See Together (& 5 That Made No Sense), 10 Ways Obi-Wan Changed After Becoming Ben Kenobi. Peace. The Metal Gear Solid franchise has been led by Big Boss and Solid Snake. Though Solid Snake did defeat Big Boss twice. Also known as Ishmael and Saladin. Known for its revolutionary stealth gameplay and bonkers storytelling, the whole saga encompasses a giant meta-commentary on war and various other themes. Metal Gear 2: Solid Snake reveals that Big Boss has since taken control of a fortified nation in Central Asia known as Zanzibar Land and commissions the development of Metal Gear D. Solid Snake confronts Big Boss once again while escaping from Zanzibar Land's detention camp, with Snake … His lack of voice compared to the Snakes in the old games that would talk forever and ever shows his real lack of voice in the whole situation. Establishing many mercenary groups such as Militaire Sans Frontieres, Outer Heaven, and Zanzibar Land, he has always been a charismatic leader with nothing holding him back. I'm hard pressed to say Big Boss, and plus he is the original Snake. Naked Snake is too much similar to Solid. He certainly does not rest on his birthright, either. Allies can look up Sam’s weaknesses and give them to Snake just like a boss in Metal Gear Solid. Whatever personal philosophy Venom may have had, fighting for a better future like what the Boss had hoped for, it was washed away as he cast away the shackles of his past, accepting not who he is, but who he was meant to be. The site may not work properly if you don't, If you do not update your browser, we suggest you visit, Press J to jump to the feed. and that final boss fight. It would also mean that if they fought in a straight CQC battle, Big Boss would probably defeat Solid Snake. Snake is always accompanied by a cavalcade of assistants for whatever danger may arrive. He was sent to assassinate his former mentor and spiritual mother, The Boss, in order to prevent nuclear conflict between Russia and the United States. For Metal Gear Solid V: The Phantom Pain on the PlayStation 4, a GameFAQs message board topic titled "There is no Venom Snake, It was Always Big Boss". We have no tomorrow, but there's still hope for the future. but big boss was more of a tough guy i think. His story is pretty much a bunch of retcons. Solid Snake defeated Big Boss twice, but never managed to kill him (retcons for the win ). Big Boss was burnt by Solid Snake in MG2:SS, but he survived, though. Venom Snake is badass as well, doesnt give ve a fuck about and accepts what he became, out of loyalty for his close friend Big Boss, basically goes on war against the war and is the true owner of most of Big Bosses feats that contribuited to the legend. Although Big Boss had a dream of a world where soldiers would never put down their gun in perpetual war, Solid Snake didn't want that. While both had nightmares and intense feelings of guilt over it, Solid never questioned it, even as it is likely that he was specifically chosen by the Patriots in MG2 to infiltrate Zanzibarland. The truth is, most witches are nature loving and earth protecting people that wouldn't hurt a fly. When he did some great things he got the title of Big Boss. I really like the story of Venom Snake and what he has to offer to the story as a character. His "trilogy": Metal Gear Solid 3 Metal Gear: Peace Walker Metal Gear Solid 5 (MG 1 and 2) I am partial to Big Boss's trilogy for the gameplay and for the character arc. Big Boss agierte ihm gegenüber stets als sein Mentor und Kommandeur. Big Boss vs Solid Snake 2008-08-21 17:44:58 As most of you know you dont play as Solid Snake in Metal Gear Solid 3 Instead you play as the greatest soldier who ever lived. 17 jun, 2016 @ 23:25 well solid snake did best his proxy, him in battle with a spray can, and finished him off by breathing on him so... #2. Powers and Stats. Although Solid Snake only learned about the Patriot threat later in his life, he is the one responsible for ending it, as well the whole feud between Big Boss and Zero. He establishes an army to feed his love of war, but when destiny came knocking and all his efforts were bombed to oblivion, something within him snapped, for the last time. @gent-zer0. Naked Snake big boss is the "father" of Solid Snake. The Boss taught Jack extensively regarding combat, weaponry, survival, espionage, destruction, psychology and foreign languages (such as Russian), later developing CQC together. He is a good character, hero even a villain. Then the Patriots recovered Big Boss's body and kept him in a coma state, at some point after MGS2:SoL, Cyborg Raiden stole Big Boss's body from the Patriots for Big Mama. Big Boss wurde wie Solid Snake im japanischen Original zumeist von Akio Ōtsuka synchronisiert, mit Ausnahme der Serienteile, in denen sowohl Big Boss als auch Solid Snake gemeinsam vorkommen. What do you think? Saying that Venom > Naked is like saying that Raiden > Snake (their "creation" was also very similar). This meant that when fans saw what made him become the villain of Metal Gear (in a sense) and Metal Gear 2: Solid Snake, fans were able to sympathize with him far more. Big Boss was defeated by a silly lighter+hairspray combo. Since Solid Snake was unaware of his true origins until the events of Shadow Moses, his thought process behind the entire Big Boss bloodline was insane. Solid Snake may have been a clone of his legendary father, but his legacy far outstrips his genes. Big Boss. 597. He took his gun, and could very easily have shot him in the head. Into a neutral arena enter: Big Boss, Solid Snake, Liquid Snake, Solidus Snake, and Venom Snake. So much so that the Patriots attempted to create their own version of Solid Snake in the form of Raiden during the events of Metal Gear Solid 2: Sons of Liberty. Saying that Venom > Naked is like saying that Raiden > Snake (their "creation" was also very similar). ...Big Boss. In MGS1 he was sent to stop Liquid's uprising against the Patriots. Now, onto the other two protagonists, mirrors of each other as well as Solid and BB. Essay incoming... By being recreated to serve Big Boss’s will he becomes a more pure version of the original, yet he is plagued by the sins of his creator’s shadow. This is consistently on display in MGS4 and MGR, with his insistence to stand by Solid, his mentor (who he does not have to kill, though he was ordered to kill Solidus), and his usage of his Jack the Ripper persona to dole out punishment and death to criminals and those who would use children as soldiers, much like what had happened to him. And unlike Big Boss he’s had the odds stacked against him from the very start and yet he still fights on and succeeds where his brothers, father, and Venom failed. This meant he established his own legacy from the start and also understood the bigger picture behind the entire Metal Gear mythos.

Or you may still be … Test your knowledge of witchcraft and receive a free gift at the end! Big Boss has an "end justifies the means" approach and does what he feels needs to be done by any means necessary. Summary. just get confused on this one. Post Jul 08, 2010 #5 2010-07-08T18:41. Big Boss has done evil things such as authorizing torture, killing innocents and even the construction of nuclear capable Metal Gears. He is everything Metal Gear has to offer. But they didn't even trust him to be able to do it, so they sent a viral assassin along with him. Not as epic as you'd expect. Solid Snake 100%. A lover of anything pop culture since childhood, Richie Nguyen is sure to write plenty about the newest comic book, manga and movie news. Being the main face of Metal Gear since the very first title, he has been seen in numerous crossovers such as Super Smash Bros. However, what made Solid Snake different from Big Boss was that he stayed true to who he was. The Metal Gear Solid franchise is quite the video game series, thanks to Hideo Kojima and his team. Richie Nguyen is an aspiring comic book creator and journalist living in Calgary Alberta. The ultimate sacrifice for the greatest soldier, the ultimate figure of tragic circumstance, showing the darkest aspects of hero worship, adopting a warmonger's ideals of hate and anger against the world, losing everything he had for the good of a person, not for the good of the world. By using our Services or clicking I agree, you agree to our use of cookies. As Solid Snake claimed throughout the original Metal Gear Solid, "A strong man doesn't need to read the future, he makes his own.". The war between Big Boss and Zero was a conflict between Big Boss and his vision Outer Heaven, and Zero and his organization, the Patriots.The two could not agree on what The Boss's will truly was, and thus became bitter enemies.. History. The only time he wasn't being used for someone else's agenda was on the Big Shell, and even then he missed what was actually going on. Ähnlich in der englischen Sprachfassung, wo anfänglich ebenfalls David Hayter die Rolle übernahm. Big Boss decended into evil. But they didn't even trust him to be able to do it, so they sent a viral assassin along with him. I mean a Snake's a snake.. but a Boss is a boss. so in 3 thats like an OG then 1 and 2 are a clone? Unlike Solid Snake, who is more of a stern and cold soldier that you see in a variety of movies, Big Boss was kind of a lovable idiot who believed in Santa Claus. In MGS1 he was sent to stop Liquid's uprising against the Patriots. After executing said task, as well as single-handedly taking down Colonel Volgin and the Cobra Unit, he was left cold, unpatriotic, an… Whichever one it is, there wouldn't be a victor. Round 1: The Five men fight with fists only. from the whole boss thing? A one-stop shop for all things video games. Jun 26, 08 at 5:06am (PST) ^ The character's appearance in Metal Gear Solid 4 has received mostly positive opinions. In term of strength both probably on par with each other, but when it comes to brain and technique i think Big Boss have the upper hand, so i'll probably choose Big Boss. Big Boss. Solid. Heavily-Armed Trooper. Solid Snake himself is a recreation of Big Boss, the greatest soldier to ever live. New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast, More posts from the metalgearsolid community, Looks like you're using new Reddit on an old browser. Solid Snake was a pawn. The line was eventually crossed when Major Zero cloned him in 1972. Not saying I don't like Solid Snake, he is a great character. Imo the meta game interfered too much on the character, Konami's will to keep pushing MGS games ruined the character to me. At that point, he stopped caring. He took a explosion for BB, and was then transformed, against his will into a physical and mental doppelgänger of his idol, much like how Raiden was made into a new Snake. He was trained to be the best example of a soldier under the command of BB, trained to obey, to learn to stop worrying and love his Boss. All Gospel Songs By Le Andria Johnson, Aroma Touch Lamp Bulb, Christmas Chicken Decor, Mahinuha Meaning In Tagalog, The Witch Review, Is Gelatin Powder Available In Medical Stores, Gagan Biyani Father, " /> Visar 1-15 av 19 kommentarer . The “official" narrative given to us in The Phantom Pain is that Venom is a sort of clone of Big Boss created when Militaires sans Frontieres was destroyed by cipher following the peace walker incident in 1974. I understand allot of people will say "Solid Snake" cause allot of people grew up with the original. As impressive as Solid Snake is, he would've only gotten so far if it wasn't for Big Boss personally instructing him. And this badass was able to withstand multiple rockets to the face before he went down. Big Boss was never thought to be what the games expose. @gent-zer0. Neolithic since: Nov 2005. Courtesy of the Patriots. He doesn't really have good enough motivations to turn into the villain of the series, and to me that's MGS3's main problem. The only time he wasn't being used for someone else's agenda was on the Big Shell, and even then he missed what was actually going on. In contrast, Big Boss, is arguably an even more tragic figure of circumstance. Old Snake vs. Big Boss or Solid Snake vs. Naked Snake. Both are great in stealth. Solid Snake (real name David) is the clone of Big Boss, and a world-renowned soldier and spy famed for his legendary exploits in the Outer Heaven Uprising and Zanzibar Land Disturbance.After repeatedly destroying several Metal Gear units, Snake has saved the world from the possibility of nuclear warfare on multiple occasions. Later in mgs 1 2 and 4 you have clones of the greatest soldier. Depends on who you ask. Big Boss did disarm Solid Snake at the end of MGS4. For Metal Gear Solid V: The Phantom Pain on the PlayStation 3, a GameFAQs message board topic titled "big boss vs solid snake" - Page 2. Who is most likely to come out on top in the following scenarios? Being comprised of the Snake Eater team, their role was to maintain peace and unify the entire world. Although Solid Snake had many mentor figures such as Master Miller, he learned what it meant to be a soldier and CQC from Big Boss. He’s the true hero of the series and the true successor to the boss. My Hero Academia: 10 Plot Twists Fan Never Saw Coming, Metal Gear Solid: 5 Reasons Why Big Boss Is The True Snake (& 5 Why It's Solid Snake), Metal Gear Solid: 10 Facts About Revolver Ocelot Even Long-Time Fans Don't Know, Metal Gear Solid: 10 Facts About Solidus Snake Even Long-Time Fans Don't Know, 10 Anime To Watch If You Liked Metal Gear Solid, Anime: 5 Couples In Shonen Everyone Wanted To See Together (& 5 That Made No Sense), 10 Ways Obi-Wan Changed After Becoming Ben Kenobi. Peace. The Metal Gear Solid franchise has been led by Big Boss and Solid Snake. Though Solid Snake did defeat Big Boss twice. Also known as Ishmael and Saladin. Known for its revolutionary stealth gameplay and bonkers storytelling, the whole saga encompasses a giant meta-commentary on war and various other themes. Metal Gear 2: Solid Snake reveals that Big Boss has since taken control of a fortified nation in Central Asia known as Zanzibar Land and commissions the development of Metal Gear D. Solid Snake confronts Big Boss once again while escaping from Zanzibar Land's detention camp, with Snake … His lack of voice compared to the Snakes in the old games that would talk forever and ever shows his real lack of voice in the whole situation. Establishing many mercenary groups such as Militaire Sans Frontieres, Outer Heaven, and Zanzibar Land, he has always been a charismatic leader with nothing holding him back. I'm hard pressed to say Big Boss, and plus he is the original Snake. Naked Snake is too much similar to Solid. He certainly does not rest on his birthright, either. Allies can look up Sam’s weaknesses and give them to Snake just like a boss in Metal Gear Solid. Whatever personal philosophy Venom may have had, fighting for a better future like what the Boss had hoped for, it was washed away as he cast away the shackles of his past, accepting not who he is, but who he was meant to be. The site may not work properly if you don't, If you do not update your browser, we suggest you visit, Press J to jump to the feed. and that final boss fight. It would also mean that if they fought in a straight CQC battle, Big Boss would probably defeat Solid Snake. Snake is always accompanied by a cavalcade of assistants for whatever danger may arrive. He was sent to assassinate his former mentor and spiritual mother, The Boss, in order to prevent nuclear conflict between Russia and the United States. For Metal Gear Solid V: The Phantom Pain on the PlayStation 4, a GameFAQs message board topic titled "There is no Venom Snake, It was Always Big Boss". We have no tomorrow, but there's still hope for the future. but big boss was more of a tough guy i think. His story is pretty much a bunch of retcons. Solid Snake defeated Big Boss twice, but never managed to kill him (retcons for the win ). Big Boss was burnt by Solid Snake in MG2:SS, but he survived, though. Venom Snake is badass as well, doesnt give ve a fuck about and accepts what he became, out of loyalty for his close friend Big Boss, basically goes on war against the war and is the true owner of most of Big Bosses feats that contribuited to the legend. Although Big Boss had a dream of a world where soldiers would never put down their gun in perpetual war, Solid Snake didn't want that. While both had nightmares and intense feelings of guilt over it, Solid never questioned it, even as it is likely that he was specifically chosen by the Patriots in MG2 to infiltrate Zanzibarland. The truth is, most witches are nature loving and earth protecting people that wouldn't hurt a fly. When he did some great things he got the title of Big Boss. I really like the story of Venom Snake and what he has to offer to the story as a character. His "trilogy": Metal Gear Solid 3 Metal Gear: Peace Walker Metal Gear Solid 5 (MG 1 and 2) I am partial to Big Boss's trilogy for the gameplay and for the character arc. Big Boss agierte ihm gegenüber stets als sein Mentor und Kommandeur. Big Boss vs Solid Snake 2008-08-21 17:44:58 As most of you know you dont play as Solid Snake in Metal Gear Solid 3 Instead you play as the greatest soldier who ever lived. 17 jun, 2016 @ 23:25 well solid snake did best his proxy, him in battle with a spray can, and finished him off by breathing on him so... #2. Powers and Stats. Although Solid Snake only learned about the Patriot threat later in his life, he is the one responsible for ending it, as well the whole feud between Big Boss and Zero. He establishes an army to feed his love of war, but when destiny came knocking and all his efforts were bombed to oblivion, something within him snapped, for the last time. @gent-zer0. Naked Snake big boss is the "father" of Solid Snake. The Boss taught Jack extensively regarding combat, weaponry, survival, espionage, destruction, psychology and foreign languages (such as Russian), later developing CQC together. He is a good character, hero even a villain. Then the Patriots recovered Big Boss's body and kept him in a coma state, at some point after MGS2:SoL, Cyborg Raiden stole Big Boss's body from the Patriots for Big Mama. Big Boss wurde wie Solid Snake im japanischen Original zumeist von Akio Ōtsuka synchronisiert, mit Ausnahme der Serienteile, in denen sowohl Big Boss als auch Solid Snake gemeinsam vorkommen. What do you think? Saying that Venom > Naked is like saying that Raiden > Snake (their "creation" was also very similar). This meant that when fans saw what made him become the villain of Metal Gear (in a sense) and Metal Gear 2: Solid Snake, fans were able to sympathize with him far more. Big Boss was defeated by a silly lighter+hairspray combo. Since Solid Snake was unaware of his true origins until the events of Shadow Moses, his thought process behind the entire Big Boss bloodline was insane. Solid Snake may have been a clone of his legendary father, but his legacy far outstrips his genes. Big Boss. 597. He took his gun, and could very easily have shot him in the head. Into a neutral arena enter: Big Boss, Solid Snake, Liquid Snake, Solidus Snake, and Venom Snake. So much so that the Patriots attempted to create their own version of Solid Snake in the form of Raiden during the events of Metal Gear Solid 2: Sons of Liberty. Saying that Venom > Naked is like saying that Raiden > Snake (their "creation" was also very similar). ...Big Boss. In MGS1 he was sent to stop Liquid's uprising against the Patriots. Now, onto the other two protagonists, mirrors of each other as well as Solid and BB. Essay incoming... By being recreated to serve Big Boss’s will he becomes a more pure version of the original, yet he is plagued by the sins of his creator’s shadow. This is consistently on display in MGS4 and MGR, with his insistence to stand by Solid, his mentor (who he does not have to kill, though he was ordered to kill Solidus), and his usage of his Jack the Ripper persona to dole out punishment and death to criminals and those who would use children as soldiers, much like what had happened to him. And unlike Big Boss he’s had the odds stacked against him from the very start and yet he still fights on and succeeds where his brothers, father, and Venom failed. This meant he established his own legacy from the start and also understood the bigger picture behind the entire Metal Gear mythos.

Or you may still be … Test your knowledge of witchcraft and receive a free gift at the end! Big Boss has an "end justifies the means" approach and does what he feels needs to be done by any means necessary. Summary. just get confused on this one. Post Jul 08, 2010 #5 2010-07-08T18:41. Big Boss has done evil things such as authorizing torture, killing innocents and even the construction of nuclear capable Metal Gears. He is everything Metal Gear has to offer. But they didn't even trust him to be able to do it, so they sent a viral assassin along with him. Not as epic as you'd expect. Solid Snake 100%. A lover of anything pop culture since childhood, Richie Nguyen is sure to write plenty about the newest comic book, manga and movie news. Being the main face of Metal Gear since the very first title, he has been seen in numerous crossovers such as Super Smash Bros. However, what made Solid Snake different from Big Boss was that he stayed true to who he was. The Metal Gear Solid franchise is quite the video game series, thanks to Hideo Kojima and his team. Richie Nguyen is an aspiring comic book creator and journalist living in Calgary Alberta. The ultimate sacrifice for the greatest soldier, the ultimate figure of tragic circumstance, showing the darkest aspects of hero worship, adopting a warmonger's ideals of hate and anger against the world, losing everything he had for the good of a person, not for the good of the world. By using our Services or clicking I agree, you agree to our use of cookies. As Solid Snake claimed throughout the original Metal Gear Solid, "A strong man doesn't need to read the future, he makes his own.". The war between Big Boss and Zero was a conflict between Big Boss and his vision Outer Heaven, and Zero and his organization, the Patriots.The two could not agree on what The Boss's will truly was, and thus became bitter enemies.. History. The only time he wasn't being used for someone else's agenda was on the Big Shell, and even then he missed what was actually going on. Ähnlich in der englischen Sprachfassung, wo anfänglich ebenfalls David Hayter die Rolle übernahm. Big Boss decended into evil. But they didn't even trust him to be able to do it, so they sent a viral assassin along with him. I mean a Snake's a snake.. but a Boss is a boss. so in 3 thats like an OG then 1 and 2 are a clone? Unlike Solid Snake, who is more of a stern and cold soldier that you see in a variety of movies, Big Boss was kind of a lovable idiot who believed in Santa Claus. In MGS1 he was sent to stop Liquid's uprising against the Patriots. After executing said task, as well as single-handedly taking down Colonel Volgin and the Cobra Unit, he was left cold, unpatriotic, an… Whichever one it is, there wouldn't be a victor. Round 1: The Five men fight with fists only. from the whole boss thing? A one-stop shop for all things video games. Jun 26, 08 at 5:06am (PST) ^ The character's appearance in Metal Gear Solid 4 has received mostly positive opinions. In term of strength both probably on par with each other, but when it comes to brain and technique i think Big Boss have the upper hand, so i'll probably choose Big Boss. Big Boss. Solid. Heavily-Armed Trooper. Solid Snake himself is a recreation of Big Boss, the greatest soldier to ever live. New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast, More posts from the metalgearsolid community, Looks like you're using new Reddit on an old browser. Solid Snake was a pawn. The line was eventually crossed when Major Zero cloned him in 1972. Not saying I don't like Solid Snake, he is a great character. Imo the meta game interfered too much on the character, Konami's will to keep pushing MGS games ruined the character to me. At that point, he stopped caring. He took a explosion for BB, and was then transformed, against his will into a physical and mental doppelgänger of his idol, much like how Raiden was made into a new Snake. He was trained to be the best example of a soldier under the command of BB, trained to obey, to learn to stop worrying and love his Boss. All Gospel Songs By Le Andria Johnson, Aroma Touch Lamp Bulb, Christmas Chicken Decor, Mahinuha Meaning In Tagalog, The Witch Review, Is Gelatin Powder Available In Medical Stores, Gagan Biyani Father, " /> Visar 1-15 av 19 kommentarer . The “official" narrative given to us in The Phantom Pain is that Venom is a sort of clone of Big Boss created when Militaires sans Frontieres was destroyed by cipher following the peace walker incident in 1974. I understand allot of people will say "Solid Snake" cause allot of people grew up with the original. As impressive as Solid Snake is, he would've only gotten so far if it wasn't for Big Boss personally instructing him. And this badass was able to withstand multiple rockets to the face before he went down. Big Boss was never thought to be what the games expose. @gent-zer0. Neolithic since: Nov 2005. Courtesy of the Patriots. He doesn't really have good enough motivations to turn into the villain of the series, and to me that's MGS3's main problem. The only time he wasn't being used for someone else's agenda was on the Big Shell, and even then he missed what was actually going on. In contrast, Big Boss, is arguably an even more tragic figure of circumstance. Old Snake vs. Big Boss or Solid Snake vs. Naked Snake. Both are great in stealth. Solid Snake (real name David) is the clone of Big Boss, and a world-renowned soldier and spy famed for his legendary exploits in the Outer Heaven Uprising and Zanzibar Land Disturbance.After repeatedly destroying several Metal Gear units, Snake has saved the world from the possibility of nuclear warfare on multiple occasions. Later in mgs 1 2 and 4 you have clones of the greatest soldier. Depends on who you ask. Big Boss did disarm Solid Snake at the end of MGS4. For Metal Gear Solid V: The Phantom Pain on the PlayStation 3, a GameFAQs message board topic titled "big boss vs solid snake" - Page 2. Who is most likely to come out on top in the following scenarios? Being comprised of the Snake Eater team, their role was to maintain peace and unify the entire world. Although Solid Snake had many mentor figures such as Master Miller, he learned what it meant to be a soldier and CQC from Big Boss. He’s the true hero of the series and the true successor to the boss. My Hero Academia: 10 Plot Twists Fan Never Saw Coming, Metal Gear Solid: 5 Reasons Why Big Boss Is The True Snake (& 5 Why It's Solid Snake), Metal Gear Solid: 10 Facts About Revolver Ocelot Even Long-Time Fans Don't Know, Metal Gear Solid: 10 Facts About Solidus Snake Even Long-Time Fans Don't Know, 10 Anime To Watch If You Liked Metal Gear Solid, Anime: 5 Couples In Shonen Everyone Wanted To See Together (& 5 That Made No Sense), 10 Ways Obi-Wan Changed After Becoming Ben Kenobi. Peace. The Metal Gear Solid franchise has been led by Big Boss and Solid Snake. Though Solid Snake did defeat Big Boss twice. Also known as Ishmael and Saladin. Known for its revolutionary stealth gameplay and bonkers storytelling, the whole saga encompasses a giant meta-commentary on war and various other themes. Metal Gear 2: Solid Snake reveals that Big Boss has since taken control of a fortified nation in Central Asia known as Zanzibar Land and commissions the development of Metal Gear D. Solid Snake confronts Big Boss once again while escaping from Zanzibar Land's detention camp, with Snake … His lack of voice compared to the Snakes in the old games that would talk forever and ever shows his real lack of voice in the whole situation. Establishing many mercenary groups such as Militaire Sans Frontieres, Outer Heaven, and Zanzibar Land, he has always been a charismatic leader with nothing holding him back. I'm hard pressed to say Big Boss, and plus he is the original Snake. Naked Snake is too much similar to Solid. He certainly does not rest on his birthright, either. Allies can look up Sam’s weaknesses and give them to Snake just like a boss in Metal Gear Solid. Whatever personal philosophy Venom may have had, fighting for a better future like what the Boss had hoped for, it was washed away as he cast away the shackles of his past, accepting not who he is, but who he was meant to be. The site may not work properly if you don't, If you do not update your browser, we suggest you visit, Press J to jump to the feed. and that final boss fight. It would also mean that if they fought in a straight CQC battle, Big Boss would probably defeat Solid Snake. Snake is always accompanied by a cavalcade of assistants for whatever danger may arrive. He was sent to assassinate his former mentor and spiritual mother, The Boss, in order to prevent nuclear conflict between Russia and the United States. For Metal Gear Solid V: The Phantom Pain on the PlayStation 4, a GameFAQs message board topic titled "There is no Venom Snake, It was Always Big Boss". We have no tomorrow, but there's still hope for the future. but big boss was more of a tough guy i think. His story is pretty much a bunch of retcons. Solid Snake defeated Big Boss twice, but never managed to kill him (retcons for the win ). Big Boss was burnt by Solid Snake in MG2:SS, but he survived, though. Venom Snake is badass as well, doesnt give ve a fuck about and accepts what he became, out of loyalty for his close friend Big Boss, basically goes on war against the war and is the true owner of most of Big Bosses feats that contribuited to the legend. Although Big Boss had a dream of a world where soldiers would never put down their gun in perpetual war, Solid Snake didn't want that. While both had nightmares and intense feelings of guilt over it, Solid never questioned it, even as it is likely that he was specifically chosen by the Patriots in MG2 to infiltrate Zanzibarland. The truth is, most witches are nature loving and earth protecting people that wouldn't hurt a fly. When he did some great things he got the title of Big Boss. I really like the story of Venom Snake and what he has to offer to the story as a character. His "trilogy": Metal Gear Solid 3 Metal Gear: Peace Walker Metal Gear Solid 5 (MG 1 and 2) I am partial to Big Boss's trilogy for the gameplay and for the character arc. Big Boss agierte ihm gegenüber stets als sein Mentor und Kommandeur. Big Boss vs Solid Snake 2008-08-21 17:44:58 As most of you know you dont play as Solid Snake in Metal Gear Solid 3 Instead you play as the greatest soldier who ever lived. 17 jun, 2016 @ 23:25 well solid snake did best his proxy, him in battle with a spray can, and finished him off by breathing on him so... #2. Powers and Stats. Although Solid Snake only learned about the Patriot threat later in his life, he is the one responsible for ending it, as well the whole feud between Big Boss and Zero. He establishes an army to feed his love of war, but when destiny came knocking and all his efforts were bombed to oblivion, something within him snapped, for the last time. @gent-zer0. Naked Snake big boss is the "father" of Solid Snake. The Boss taught Jack extensively regarding combat, weaponry, survival, espionage, destruction, psychology and foreign languages (such as Russian), later developing CQC together. He is a good character, hero even a villain. Then the Patriots recovered Big Boss's body and kept him in a coma state, at some point after MGS2:SoL, Cyborg Raiden stole Big Boss's body from the Patriots for Big Mama. Big Boss wurde wie Solid Snake im japanischen Original zumeist von Akio Ōtsuka synchronisiert, mit Ausnahme der Serienteile, in denen sowohl Big Boss als auch Solid Snake gemeinsam vorkommen. What do you think? Saying that Venom > Naked is like saying that Raiden > Snake (their "creation" was also very similar). This meant that when fans saw what made him become the villain of Metal Gear (in a sense) and Metal Gear 2: Solid Snake, fans were able to sympathize with him far more. Big Boss was defeated by a silly lighter+hairspray combo. Since Solid Snake was unaware of his true origins until the events of Shadow Moses, his thought process behind the entire Big Boss bloodline was insane. Solid Snake may have been a clone of his legendary father, but his legacy far outstrips his genes. Big Boss. 597. He took his gun, and could very easily have shot him in the head. Into a neutral arena enter: Big Boss, Solid Snake, Liquid Snake, Solidus Snake, and Venom Snake. So much so that the Patriots attempted to create their own version of Solid Snake in the form of Raiden during the events of Metal Gear Solid 2: Sons of Liberty. Saying that Venom > Naked is like saying that Raiden > Snake (their "creation" was also very similar). ...Big Boss. In MGS1 he was sent to stop Liquid's uprising against the Patriots. Now, onto the other two protagonists, mirrors of each other as well as Solid and BB. Essay incoming... By being recreated to serve Big Boss’s will he becomes a more pure version of the original, yet he is plagued by the sins of his creator’s shadow. This is consistently on display in MGS4 and MGR, with his insistence to stand by Solid, his mentor (who he does not have to kill, though he was ordered to kill Solidus), and his usage of his Jack the Ripper persona to dole out punishment and death to criminals and those who would use children as soldiers, much like what had happened to him. And unlike Big Boss he’s had the odds stacked against him from the very start and yet he still fights on and succeeds where his brothers, father, and Venom failed. This meant he established his own legacy from the start and also understood the bigger picture behind the entire Metal Gear mythos.

Or you may still be … Test your knowledge of witchcraft and receive a free gift at the end! Big Boss has an "end justifies the means" approach and does what he feels needs to be done by any means necessary. Summary. just get confused on this one. Post Jul 08, 2010 #5 2010-07-08T18:41. Big Boss has done evil things such as authorizing torture, killing innocents and even the construction of nuclear capable Metal Gears. He is everything Metal Gear has to offer. But they didn't even trust him to be able to do it, so they sent a viral assassin along with him. Not as epic as you'd expect. Solid Snake 100%. A lover of anything pop culture since childhood, Richie Nguyen is sure to write plenty about the newest comic book, manga and movie news. Being the main face of Metal Gear since the very first title, he has been seen in numerous crossovers such as Super Smash Bros. However, what made Solid Snake different from Big Boss was that he stayed true to who he was. The Metal Gear Solid franchise is quite the video game series, thanks to Hideo Kojima and his team. Richie Nguyen is an aspiring comic book creator and journalist living in Calgary Alberta. The ultimate sacrifice for the greatest soldier, the ultimate figure of tragic circumstance, showing the darkest aspects of hero worship, adopting a warmonger's ideals of hate and anger against the world, losing everything he had for the good of a person, not for the good of the world. By using our Services or clicking I agree, you agree to our use of cookies. As Solid Snake claimed throughout the original Metal Gear Solid, "A strong man doesn't need to read the future, he makes his own.". The war between Big Boss and Zero was a conflict between Big Boss and his vision Outer Heaven, and Zero and his organization, the Patriots.The two could not agree on what The Boss's will truly was, and thus became bitter enemies.. History. The only time he wasn't being used for someone else's agenda was on the Big Shell, and even then he missed what was actually going on. Ähnlich in der englischen Sprachfassung, wo anfänglich ebenfalls David Hayter die Rolle übernahm. Big Boss decended into evil. But they didn't even trust him to be able to do it, so they sent a viral assassin along with him. I mean a Snake's a snake.. but a Boss is a boss. so in 3 thats like an OG then 1 and 2 are a clone? Unlike Solid Snake, who is more of a stern and cold soldier that you see in a variety of movies, Big Boss was kind of a lovable idiot who believed in Santa Claus. In MGS1 he was sent to stop Liquid's uprising against the Patriots. After executing said task, as well as single-handedly taking down Colonel Volgin and the Cobra Unit, he was left cold, unpatriotic, an… Whichever one it is, there wouldn't be a victor. Round 1: The Five men fight with fists only. from the whole boss thing? A one-stop shop for all things video games. Jun 26, 08 at 5:06am (PST) ^ The character's appearance in Metal Gear Solid 4 has received mostly positive opinions. In term of strength both probably on par with each other, but when it comes to brain and technique i think Big Boss have the upper hand, so i'll probably choose Big Boss. Big Boss. Solid. Heavily-Armed Trooper. Solid Snake himself is a recreation of Big Boss, the greatest soldier to ever live. New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast, More posts from the metalgearsolid community, Looks like you're using new Reddit on an old browser. Solid Snake was a pawn. The line was eventually crossed when Major Zero cloned him in 1972. Not saying I don't like Solid Snake, he is a great character. Imo the meta game interfered too much on the character, Konami's will to keep pushing MGS games ruined the character to me. At that point, he stopped caring. He took a explosion for BB, and was then transformed, against his will into a physical and mental doppelgänger of his idol, much like how Raiden was made into a new Snake. He was trained to be the best example of a soldier under the command of BB, trained to obey, to learn to stop worrying and love his Boss. All Gospel Songs By Le Andria Johnson, Aroma Touch Lamp Bulb, Christmas Chicken Decor, Mahinuha Meaning In Tagalog, The Witch Review, Is Gelatin Powder Available In Medical Stores, Gagan Biyani Father, " />

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THERE'S ROOM FOR ONLY ONE SNAKE! Big Boss is the soldier-turned-warlord, father of the Snake clones, locked in proxy-war with Zero. While Big Boss and Solid Snake share the same goals of ending the Patriots' war, the way they go about doing so is what separates them the most. i played a majority of these games, is there a way you could break this down for me. Something he cared about (his MSF, his proto-Outer Heaven) was gone, destroyed while he could only watch helplessly. But some fans ask who is the true protagonist of the series is, with some preferring one over the other. 17 jun, 2016 @ 23:07 it is implied that big boss was stronger than solid snake when young. Related: Metal Gear Solid: 10 Facts About Solidus Snake Even Long-Time Fans Don't Know. Through the experience, Jack grew to hold The Boss in great respect and reverence, viewing her not only as a me… And the original was all about Solid Snake. But he is also the one who used Child Soldiers. Big Boss has incredible endurance and is an expert in wilderness survival, going on with little equipment at the beginning of Operation Snake Eater and surviving off of the wildlife for days as he performed his mission shortly after being gravely injured by the Boss. Ultimately, through Solid's influence, he adopts Solid's philosophy of helping anyone that needs it, and casts away the shackles of his past, refusing to let it define him, instead accepting it as a part of who he is and moving onward to create a better future. Holografix. Ultimately, following the Les Enfants Terribles project, in which the Patriots created a set of clone sons (Solid, Liquid, and Solidus Snake) from his DNA, Big Boss defected from the Patriots and set out on his own. Now, maybe being a witch would be better? Beginning and the end of the series. Big Boss now masters CQC snake is also very talented in that. Big Boss now masters CQC snake is also very talented in that. To the end. Solid Snake is the original protagonist in terms of his conception. #1. Without a single thing holding him back in terms of historical context, Solid Snake ended the threat, not because of a higher power, but because he wanted to as part of Philanthropy. Solid Snakes Aktivitäten entlarvten Big Boss jedoch als den Kopf hinter Outer Heaven. Source(s): https://shrink.im/a8CAb. If the Big Boss Saga ended as satisfying as Solis Snake's did then it would be that, but because of how good MGS4's ending was i have to say Solid Snake. He was the ultimate successor to Solid Snake, a paragon of hope who nevertheless understands the need for ruthless brutality against those who exploit others, the ultimate figure of tragedy-turned-fighter for peace, showing the best possible outcome of hero worship through adopting a hero's values, willing to potentially lose his mind to an alternate personality who he manages to co-exist with, all not in service to any one individual, but for the good of the world. Born in 1935, Jack’s military career dated back to the 1950s, becoming The Boss's disciple in June 1950, and fighting in the Korean War. 17 jun, 2016 @ 23:36 big boss from peacewalker? He accepted that his mentor was a warmonger and needed to be stopped. Despite knowing that the odds are constantly against him, he manages to persevere, keep his faith in his allies, and maintain his belief that even though people are shitty in general, everyone, and the world, is worth fighting for. Next: Anime: 5 Couples In Shonen Everyone Wanted To See Together (& 5 That Made No Sense). Solid Snake @games. From flying monkeys to warty noses, witches have been misunderstood by a great majority. This meant that he spent his entire life trying to fight the Patriots with his army nation of Outer Heaven. In MGS1 he was sent to stop Liquid's uprising against the Patriots. The only time he wasn't being used for someone else's agenda was on the Big Shell, and even then he missed what was actually going on. But they didn't even trust him to be able to do it, so they sent a viral assassin along with him. Naked Snake … It may be hard to keep track of, and requires a little bit of retconning, but it does fit into the narrative nicely. His exploits as "the man that makes the impossible possible" became nothing short of legendary. Big Boss is probably the more developed character with an more interesting story. 1 decade ago. Farandr. Yet despite all of this, Solid Snake defeated his father, his father's body double, and his genetically superior brothers. Tier: 8-B, higher with weapons Name: John ("Jack"), Naked Snake, Big Boss. Unlike Raiden, who was shaped into a test subject and pawn for an experiment that would in part make him into a new Solid, whom he idolized, and only adopted Solid's views after rediscovering his self-identity, Venom had already proven himself to be dedicated not just to BB, but to the very idea of BB. Before it was released, various speculations were made regarding his role. The hallway scene at the end of 4(?) But just like solid snake I had to pull through!! My main problem with Big Boss is that the game never really convinced me that the same guy from MGS3 (which btw is just the same, maybe more naive, Solid Snake) could become what the series wants us to believe he really is. Solid Snake, more skilled imo, better feats, better sense of morality and ideals, more badass appearance imo, and actually smart, because Big Boss looks too dumb sometimes. His character design is hands down the best. level 2 Marvel: Which Member Of The Avengers Are You Based On Your Chinese Zodiac Sign? Solid Snake managed to defeat Venom only with a ♥♥♥♥ing rocket launcher! Plus succeeds always. Big Boss. This meant that everything that makes Solid Snake such a formidable character in the first place, came from Big Boss. That said, I think that Big Boss is a lot more interesting as a character because of everything he went through and did. The character was formally introduced in MGSV, but fans of the series know that he was one of the series' first characters.The main villain of the premiere 1987 title - who was initially thought to be Big Boss - turned out to be Punished Snake from The Phantom Pain.. He had his priorities straight. Snake was in his prime during these battles while Big Boss was probably a shadow of his former self in real combat. Not only did he feel disgusted with Big Boss to the point of abandoning CQC, but he also thought Liquid Snake was crazy and that his genetic destiny of recreating Big Boss's dream was nothing more than a fantasy. Sexy. 5 years ago. Solid Snake was a pawn. Punished by them. Which btw everyone knows now that is pure BS. He has fought for himself, a greater purposes, been lead astray, been his own man. One thing that Big Boss didn't taught Solid Snake was how to dismantle firearms in CQC which he himself finished perfecting the technique before his death. In contrast to Solid, Raiden has a somewhat stable love life, with one love interest throughout. Spoiler Warnung: Im nachfolgenden Abschnitt befinden sich Informationen, die euch den Spielspaß nehmen könnten! One of the biggest was the form of control via the Patriots which was fought by Big Boss, the original Snake. In MGS4 he again is used to spread a biological virus by the patriots and a digital one by the resistance. In this way, he was born with a natural advantage. 597. Big Boss, however, knows that the Boss was basically a needless political sacrifice, and this completely broke him. Venom, like the other three, carries immense guilt, stemming from his inability to save Paz. Big Boss and Zero go their separate ways. For Metal Gear Solid V: The Phantom Pain on the PlayStation 4, a GameFAQs message board topic titled "Big boss vs old snake". i played 1 and 2 and some of 3. i a*sumed with snake he just aged differently. His story is all about being better than circumstance and the endurance of the human spirit, and that’s so moving to me. Solid Snake along with Liquid and Solidus Snake where created in the "Le Enfants Terrible" project where dna from Big Boss was used to … That's who we play as in Peace Walker. For the majority of his life, even after learning about his identity and that he was controlled most of his life, it didn't stop him from straying away from his genetic destiny. In 1970, Zero founded the Patriots, whose aim was to carry on The Boss' will. Instead of having the innate genetic advantages of being the clone of the greatest soldier, he was kidnapped and raised as a ruthless psychopathic killing machine. Big Boss himself was the co-creator along with his mentor The Boss. All characters are at their physical peak and are unperturbed by the very similar looking men that they're fighting. However, he eventually did become worse by the time of The Phantom Pain and eventually lost to his son Solid Snake. Having written journalistic coverage during his time at Mount Royal University's Calgary Journal, as well as interning in Tourism Calgary, Richie has plenty of experience writing things from general news to listicles. Solid is undoubtedly more heroic, and the better “good guy”. Anonymous. Covering the hottest movie and TV topics that fans want. In the end, having served as a decoy for BB for a long time, he has somewhat lost his self-identity by 1995, where he meets his fate, shouldering the ultimate responsibility of his role, and lays his life down for BB, meeting his end at the hands of Solid Snake, his boss's most capable, most similar (in terms of mindset) genetic clone. Big Boss's final battle. Although he was still controlled behind the scenes in MGS4, he nonetheless saved the world by releasing the grip of the Patriots. Big Boss versuchte daraufhin, Solid Snake persönlich auszuschalten, was ihm jedoch misslang: Big Boss unterlag. That's the organization that he is a part of whose goal was to let the world be. NickRocks wrote:MGS1/2 Solid Snake MADE this series. He was so legendary that he eventually got cloned for the Les Enfants Terribles project in 1972. < > Visar 1-15 av 19 kommentarer . The “official" narrative given to us in The Phantom Pain is that Venom is a sort of clone of Big Boss created when Militaires sans Frontieres was destroyed by cipher following the peace walker incident in 1974. I understand allot of people will say "Solid Snake" cause allot of people grew up with the original. As impressive as Solid Snake is, he would've only gotten so far if it wasn't for Big Boss personally instructing him. And this badass was able to withstand multiple rockets to the face before he went down. Big Boss was never thought to be what the games expose. @gent-zer0. Neolithic since: Nov 2005. Courtesy of the Patriots. He doesn't really have good enough motivations to turn into the villain of the series, and to me that's MGS3's main problem. The only time he wasn't being used for someone else's agenda was on the Big Shell, and even then he missed what was actually going on. In contrast, Big Boss, is arguably an even more tragic figure of circumstance. Old Snake vs. Big Boss or Solid Snake vs. Naked Snake. Both are great in stealth. Solid Snake (real name David) is the clone of Big Boss, and a world-renowned soldier and spy famed for his legendary exploits in the Outer Heaven Uprising and Zanzibar Land Disturbance.After repeatedly destroying several Metal Gear units, Snake has saved the world from the possibility of nuclear warfare on multiple occasions. Later in mgs 1 2 and 4 you have clones of the greatest soldier. Depends on who you ask. Big Boss did disarm Solid Snake at the end of MGS4. For Metal Gear Solid V: The Phantom Pain on the PlayStation 3, a GameFAQs message board topic titled "big boss vs solid snake" - Page 2. Who is most likely to come out on top in the following scenarios? Being comprised of the Snake Eater team, their role was to maintain peace and unify the entire world. Although Solid Snake had many mentor figures such as Master Miller, he learned what it meant to be a soldier and CQC from Big Boss. He’s the true hero of the series and the true successor to the boss. My Hero Academia: 10 Plot Twists Fan Never Saw Coming, Metal Gear Solid: 5 Reasons Why Big Boss Is The True Snake (& 5 Why It's Solid Snake), Metal Gear Solid: 10 Facts About Revolver Ocelot Even Long-Time Fans Don't Know, Metal Gear Solid: 10 Facts About Solidus Snake Even Long-Time Fans Don't Know, 10 Anime To Watch If You Liked Metal Gear Solid, Anime: 5 Couples In Shonen Everyone Wanted To See Together (& 5 That Made No Sense), 10 Ways Obi-Wan Changed After Becoming Ben Kenobi. Peace. The Metal Gear Solid franchise has been led by Big Boss and Solid Snake. Though Solid Snake did defeat Big Boss twice. Also known as Ishmael and Saladin. Known for its revolutionary stealth gameplay and bonkers storytelling, the whole saga encompasses a giant meta-commentary on war and various other themes. Metal Gear 2: Solid Snake reveals that Big Boss has since taken control of a fortified nation in Central Asia known as Zanzibar Land and commissions the development of Metal Gear D. Solid Snake confronts Big Boss once again while escaping from Zanzibar Land's detention camp, with Snake … His lack of voice compared to the Snakes in the old games that would talk forever and ever shows his real lack of voice in the whole situation. Establishing many mercenary groups such as Militaire Sans Frontieres, Outer Heaven, and Zanzibar Land, he has always been a charismatic leader with nothing holding him back. I'm hard pressed to say Big Boss, and plus he is the original Snake. Naked Snake is too much similar to Solid. He certainly does not rest on his birthright, either. Allies can look up Sam’s weaknesses and give them to Snake just like a boss in Metal Gear Solid. Whatever personal philosophy Venom may have had, fighting for a better future like what the Boss had hoped for, it was washed away as he cast away the shackles of his past, accepting not who he is, but who he was meant to be. The site may not work properly if you don't, If you do not update your browser, we suggest you visit, Press J to jump to the feed. and that final boss fight. It would also mean that if they fought in a straight CQC battle, Big Boss would probably defeat Solid Snake. Snake is always accompanied by a cavalcade of assistants for whatever danger may arrive. He was sent to assassinate his former mentor and spiritual mother, The Boss, in order to prevent nuclear conflict between Russia and the United States. For Metal Gear Solid V: The Phantom Pain on the PlayStation 4, a GameFAQs message board topic titled "There is no Venom Snake, It was Always Big Boss". We have no tomorrow, but there's still hope for the future. but big boss was more of a tough guy i think. His story is pretty much a bunch of retcons. Solid Snake defeated Big Boss twice, but never managed to kill him (retcons for the win ). Big Boss was burnt by Solid Snake in MG2:SS, but he survived, though. Venom Snake is badass as well, doesnt give ve a fuck about and accepts what he became, out of loyalty for his close friend Big Boss, basically goes on war against the war and is the true owner of most of Big Bosses feats that contribuited to the legend. Although Big Boss had a dream of a world where soldiers would never put down their gun in perpetual war, Solid Snake didn't want that. While both had nightmares and intense feelings of guilt over it, Solid never questioned it, even as it is likely that he was specifically chosen by the Patriots in MG2 to infiltrate Zanzibarland. The truth is, most witches are nature loving and earth protecting people that wouldn't hurt a fly. When he did some great things he got the title of Big Boss. I really like the story of Venom Snake and what he has to offer to the story as a character. His "trilogy": Metal Gear Solid 3 Metal Gear: Peace Walker Metal Gear Solid 5 (MG 1 and 2) I am partial to Big Boss's trilogy for the gameplay and for the character arc. Big Boss agierte ihm gegenüber stets als sein Mentor und Kommandeur. Big Boss vs Solid Snake 2008-08-21 17:44:58 As most of you know you dont play as Solid Snake in Metal Gear Solid 3 Instead you play as the greatest soldier who ever lived. 17 jun, 2016 @ 23:25 well solid snake did best his proxy, him in battle with a spray can, and finished him off by breathing on him so... #2. Powers and Stats. Although Solid Snake only learned about the Patriot threat later in his life, he is the one responsible for ending it, as well the whole feud between Big Boss and Zero. He establishes an army to feed his love of war, but when destiny came knocking and all his efforts were bombed to oblivion, something within him snapped, for the last time. @gent-zer0. Naked Snake big boss is the "father" of Solid Snake. The Boss taught Jack extensively regarding combat, weaponry, survival, espionage, destruction, psychology and foreign languages (such as Russian), later developing CQC together. He is a good character, hero even a villain. Then the Patriots recovered Big Boss's body and kept him in a coma state, at some point after MGS2:SoL, Cyborg Raiden stole Big Boss's body from the Patriots for Big Mama. Big Boss wurde wie Solid Snake im japanischen Original zumeist von Akio Ōtsuka synchronisiert, mit Ausnahme der Serienteile, in denen sowohl Big Boss als auch Solid Snake gemeinsam vorkommen. What do you think? Saying that Venom > Naked is like saying that Raiden > Snake (their "creation" was also very similar). This meant that when fans saw what made him become the villain of Metal Gear (in a sense) and Metal Gear 2: Solid Snake, fans were able to sympathize with him far more. Big Boss was defeated by a silly lighter+hairspray combo. Since Solid Snake was unaware of his true origins until the events of Shadow Moses, his thought process behind the entire Big Boss bloodline was insane. Solid Snake may have been a clone of his legendary father, but his legacy far outstrips his genes. Big Boss. 597. He took his gun, and could very easily have shot him in the head. Into a neutral arena enter: Big Boss, Solid Snake, Liquid Snake, Solidus Snake, and Venom Snake. So much so that the Patriots attempted to create their own version of Solid Snake in the form of Raiden during the events of Metal Gear Solid 2: Sons of Liberty. Saying that Venom > Naked is like saying that Raiden > Snake (their "creation" was also very similar). ...Big Boss. In MGS1 he was sent to stop Liquid's uprising against the Patriots. Now, onto the other two protagonists, mirrors of each other as well as Solid and BB. Essay incoming... By being recreated to serve Big Boss’s will he becomes a more pure version of the original, yet he is plagued by the sins of his creator’s shadow. This is consistently on display in MGS4 and MGR, with his insistence to stand by Solid, his mentor (who he does not have to kill, though he was ordered to kill Solidus), and his usage of his Jack the Ripper persona to dole out punishment and death to criminals and those who would use children as soldiers, much like what had happened to him. And unlike Big Boss he’s had the odds stacked against him from the very start and yet he still fights on and succeeds where his brothers, father, and Venom failed. This meant he established his own legacy from the start and also understood the bigger picture behind the entire Metal Gear mythos.

Or you may still be … Test your knowledge of witchcraft and receive a free gift at the end! Big Boss has an "end justifies the means" approach and does what he feels needs to be done by any means necessary. Summary. just get confused on this one. Post Jul 08, 2010 #5 2010-07-08T18:41. Big Boss has done evil things such as authorizing torture, killing innocents and even the construction of nuclear capable Metal Gears. He is everything Metal Gear has to offer. But they didn't even trust him to be able to do it, so they sent a viral assassin along with him. Not as epic as you'd expect. Solid Snake 100%. A lover of anything pop culture since childhood, Richie Nguyen is sure to write plenty about the newest comic book, manga and movie news. Being the main face of Metal Gear since the very first title, he has been seen in numerous crossovers such as Super Smash Bros. However, what made Solid Snake different from Big Boss was that he stayed true to who he was. The Metal Gear Solid franchise is quite the video game series, thanks to Hideo Kojima and his team. Richie Nguyen is an aspiring comic book creator and journalist living in Calgary Alberta. The ultimate sacrifice for the greatest soldier, the ultimate figure of tragic circumstance, showing the darkest aspects of hero worship, adopting a warmonger's ideals of hate and anger against the world, losing everything he had for the good of a person, not for the good of the world. By using our Services or clicking I agree, you agree to our use of cookies. As Solid Snake claimed throughout the original Metal Gear Solid, "A strong man doesn't need to read the future, he makes his own.". The war between Big Boss and Zero was a conflict between Big Boss and his vision Outer Heaven, and Zero and his organization, the Patriots.The two could not agree on what The Boss's will truly was, and thus became bitter enemies.. History. The only time he wasn't being used for someone else's agenda was on the Big Shell, and even then he missed what was actually going on. Ähnlich in der englischen Sprachfassung, wo anfänglich ebenfalls David Hayter die Rolle übernahm. Big Boss decended into evil. But they didn't even trust him to be able to do it, so they sent a viral assassin along with him. I mean a Snake's a snake.. but a Boss is a boss. so in 3 thats like an OG then 1 and 2 are a clone? Unlike Solid Snake, who is more of a stern and cold soldier that you see in a variety of movies, Big Boss was kind of a lovable idiot who believed in Santa Claus. In MGS1 he was sent to stop Liquid's uprising against the Patriots. After executing said task, as well as single-handedly taking down Colonel Volgin and the Cobra Unit, he was left cold, unpatriotic, an… Whichever one it is, there wouldn't be a victor. Round 1: The Five men fight with fists only. from the whole boss thing? A one-stop shop for all things video games. Jun 26, 08 at 5:06am (PST) ^ The character's appearance in Metal Gear Solid 4 has received mostly positive opinions. In term of strength both probably on par with each other, but when it comes to brain and technique i think Big Boss have the upper hand, so i'll probably choose Big Boss. Big Boss. Solid. Heavily-Armed Trooper. Solid Snake himself is a recreation of Big Boss, the greatest soldier to ever live. New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast, More posts from the metalgearsolid community, Looks like you're using new Reddit on an old browser. Solid Snake was a pawn. The line was eventually crossed when Major Zero cloned him in 1972. Not saying I don't like Solid Snake, he is a great character. Imo the meta game interfered too much on the character, Konami's will to keep pushing MGS games ruined the character to me. At that point, he stopped caring. He took a explosion for BB, and was then transformed, against his will into a physical and mental doppelgänger of his idol, much like how Raiden was made into a new Snake. He was trained to be the best example of a soldier under the command of BB, trained to obey, to learn to stop worrying and love his Boss.

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